What framework has been suggested to regulate carpooling?
On Saturday, February 8, 2020, John Kieti via kictanet <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
> What is the urgency necessitating these regulations? Which aspects of
> society or the economy will benefit from the regulations? And what are
> these benefits?
>
> Pardon me if am missing the basics.
>
> Kind regards.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 11:22 PM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
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>> @Samuel, I’m not sure, but check the National Traffic Act.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 12:51 Bill Dian via kictanet <
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>>> Currently attending the public participation.It is crystal clear that
>>> NTSA doesn’t know that hailing service operators are Data controllers and
>>> Processors and must get authorization from the Data Commissioner.The whole
>>> document is a mess!
>>>
>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 11:17 AM Barrack Otieno via kictanet, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well said Daktari, i am in agreement.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:16 am Bitange Ndemo via kictanet, <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NTSA must adhere to the Data Protection Act. They cannot create new
>>>>> regulations that are outside their purview.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ndemo.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:05 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Liz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
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>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:35 AM Liz Orembo <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Public participation will be held at the KICC from 10am. Please
>>>>>>> fell free to join.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deadline for submission is 17th Feb. KICTANet is keen on submitting
>>>>>>> it’s views on the regulations. So we will have a two days discussion on
>>>>>>> the list from Monday moderated by Mwara and I. Structure of the
>>>>>>> discussions will be communicated later today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Asanteni.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 09:30 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hezron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I doubt that this was announced.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Orembo, Liz <[email protected]> please guide us as to the
>>>>>>>> next steps?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 8:12 AM Hezron Gikanga via kictanet <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where is the Stakeholder/Public participation Forum being held?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hez Gikang’a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *From: *kictanet
>>>>>>>>> kictanet <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Reply-To: *KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, 5 February 2020 at 11:01
>>>>>>>>> *To: *<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Fauza Gila <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] DIGITAL HAILING TRANSPORT REGULATIONS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am closely following on this.
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020, Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ali. Let’s see how we can organise one in the afternoon or
>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Malcom, you raised very important points. My thoughts are that
>>>>>>>>> these laws seem to provide a framework through which NTSA can regulate the
>>>>>>>>> industry and address some of the issues that have been raised over time.
>>>>>>>>> Like assisted crime, data protection, rogue driving etc. But the question
>>>>>>>>> is, does it provide the right frameworks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Being an information service, how will this impact in other
>>>>>>>>> industries, given that there’s a likelihood of replication?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020, 09:42 Malcolm Kijirah via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I’d be interested in participating and also hearing views on this.
>>>>>>>>> There are a number of matters of interest here to me on reviewing them eg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – are they creating employment like obligations and people’s views
>>>>>>>>> on this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – are some of the obligations are unnecessarily bureaucratic eg
>>>>>>>>> the visible markings..will the drivers all be required to have multiple
>>>>>>>>> markings for each company on their car and as I understand there is a
>>>>>>>>> branding fee from the county govts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – jurisdictional issues given they are Information society
>>>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – is this a way to ensure the govt can now impose/assess certain
>>>>>>>>> taxation obligations
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> – will this effectively change their business model in kenya to
>>>>>>>>> the point it affects the industry negatively?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 9:02 AM Liz Orembo via kictanet <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Greetings listers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> NTSA has developed regulations for the the digital transport
>>>>>>>>> industry (the likes of ubber, taxify etc)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The proposed regulations include: requiring the digital hailing
>>>>>>>>> companies to have a comprehensive data protection terms for their users,
>>>>>>>>> the drivers and the company will also have to register with NTSA as digital
>>>>>>>>> hailing operators, and it will also require the companies to give data to
>>>>>>>>> NTSA upon request.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Attached is the proposed bill which is up for public participation
>>>>>>>>> this Friday. Let us know your thoughts on this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> —
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Liz.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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