net neutrality doesn’t apply to the original post, of course they meter the
pipe, you pay for bandwidth (capacity of a data channel), i don’t think
they said don’t torrent or whatever etc very few ISP’s bother as the cost
of doing traffic classification for the most part does not make business
sense, they are saying you are {almost} using more than you paid for, and
the prudent business reaction to this is to try to upgrade you to higher
capacity (upsell) or throttle your traffic.
Now there are issues on what really is the internet, how peering works, how
transit works, where we transit, where content is hosted, how its hosted,
how its metered,* from which points do we measure ‘paid for internet
bandwidth’ *, even so called dedicated link is really just a fast track to
your pocket,…and hey when i pay for internet what does that mean really?
– but that discussion can be safely left for another day….
JG
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 9:03 AM Collins Areba via kictanet <
[email protected]> wrote:
> @Nelson
>
> Service providers have different packages for different needs. Most of the
> products mentioned here are mass market products, designed to meet the
> general requirements of a large number of persons in a broad, general way.
>
> If you ask your provider to give you Dedicated Internet Access, they will.
> You may be asked to pay more, but in exchange, you will not suffer the
> “indignity” of being asked to temper your usage.
>
> I think in all fairness, FUP is about making those prices viable. We cant
> have our cake, and eat it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Collins Areba,
> Kilifi, Kenya.
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> On 2 Oct 2018, 7:28 AM +0300, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
> [email protected]>, wrote:
>
> Listers
>
> Don’t look further for blame on this issue than the total lack of interest
> from Policy Makers and Regulators regarding basic Net Neutrality tenets.
> Just in case we have forgotten what Net Neutrality means here is a
> definition:-
>
> *Net neutrality <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality>* is the
> principle that Internet service providers treat all data on the Internet
> equally, and not discriminate or charge differently by user, content,
> website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or method of
> communication. For instance, under these principles, internet service
> providers are unable to intentionally block, slow down or charge money for
> specific websites and online content. *This is sometimes enforced through
> government mandate*. These regulations can be referred to as “common
> carrier” regulations. This does not block all abilities that Internet
> service providers have to impact their customer’s services. Opt-in/opt-out
> services exist on the end user side, and filtering can be done on a local
> basis, as in the filtration of sensitive material for minors.
>
> Where are the Consumer Protection guys on this matter?
>
> Regards
>
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> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:06 PM Nelson Kwaje via kictanet <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi James,
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, I will read through it for compliance and future
>> reference
>> In principle I am usually very leery about the idea of an ISP determining
>> “Intended usage” for internet users. I think it just sounds not right.
>> Leave alone the Server monitoring clause gives the ISP a wide range of
>> authorities powers over one’s transmitted content.
>>
>> *”Service Monitoring*
>> *JTL is under no obligation to monitor a customer’s usage, bandwidth,
>> transmissions and/or content of service. However, JTL may monitor the
>> usage, bandwidth, transmissions and content of service periodically to (i)
>> comply with any necessary laws, regulations or other governmental requests
>> or (ii) operate service properly or to protect itself, its network and its
>> customers and subscribers. JTL Faiba reserves the right to modify, reject
>> or eliminate any information residing on or transmitted to its server that
>> it, in its sole discretion, believes is unacceptable or in violation of
>> this AUP or any other terms and provisions applicable to service.”*
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:23 PM James Wanjau <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think this is what you’re looking for.
>>>
>>> faiba.co.ke/quarantine/policy.html
>>>
>>> Read up on data caps- just ISPs’ way of telling you to temper your
>>> appetite for data
>>>
>>> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_cap
>>>
>>> And JTL have been doing it for a while:
>>>
>>> https://twitter.com/faibajtl/status/460478955179737088?lang=en
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 21:34, Nelson Kwaje via kictanet <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>
>>>> Please see the below exchange between me and my ISP. They did not get
>>>> back to me after my reply and the internet was not interred with since
>>>> then . Is it legal for ISPs to cut service based on such justifications.
>>>>
>>>> Cheere
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Mike
>>>> Please send me a copy of the “fair use policy”, I hope it contains a
>>>> clear definition of the intendned purposes.
>>>> Because I don’t recall signing or consenting to such an agreement.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Nelson
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018, 16:27 Mike
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> We note that the link is being over utilized hence the course for slow
>>>>> speeds. Something to note is that our various products are governed by a
>>>>> fair usage policy that is supposed to ensure that a product is used for its
>>>>> intended purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> From your today’s usage, we note that you are exhausting the FUP limit
>>>>> for the subscribed product: Faiba home 50 Mbps.
>>>>> The system is designed to limit your speed for the remainder of the
>>>>> peak hours once this threshold is reached. Kindly consider:
>>>>>
>>>>> i. Upgrading to a higher subscription
>>>>> ii. Managing your usage to be within the dimensions of the product.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindly see the attached is your average utilization graph and the most
>>>>> active protocols showing your usage for the day.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>>
>>>>> *Mike*
>>>>>
>>>>>
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