Ni.ke hits the Kshs 1 billion (or $9.7m) mark in the premium domain auction of the .ke second level domain launch (Warning: This could be #FakeNews :-) )

KENIC forgot to reserve the WWW name in the beginning.

However, what beats be is the absence of a legal channel/process to reclaim
the name.

Why not just decline to accept payment during renewal and state that the
registration was an oversight? After all it’s just used for squatting.

On 29 December 2017 at 00:59, Collins Areba via kictanet <
[email protected]> wrote:

> aha, so kenic actually sold www to someone? Goodness!
>
> Regards,
>
> Collins Areba,
> Kilifi, Kenya.
> Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788*
> Twitter: @arebacollins.
> Skype: arebacollins
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Collins, all domains on .co.ke namespace are subdomains. Nothing
>> different from www. Check for yourself on whois. That already is
>> legally binding.
>>
>> On 28/12/2017, Collins Areba <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > @kivuva,
>> >
>> > How can www.co.ke, a sub domain of co.ke be owned by someone else?
>> >
>> > This does not make sense.
>> >
>> > @Wash.
>> > My proposal is not for the domain to be sold, but rather, the A records
>> for
>> > the #2 .co.ke domain (and their attendant mx records), the domain could
>> > still be maintained by Kenic, and all they do is point to the coke
>> servers.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Collins Areba,
>> > Kilifi, Kenya.
>> > Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788*
>> > Twitter: @arebacollins.
>> > Skype: arebacollins
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
>> > [email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> It’s not possible to sell www.co.ke because it is already owned
>> >> by xTom Hong Kong Limited since 2011.
>> >>
>> >> When the original techies in the .ke namespace were generating the RNL
>> >> like nic.co.ke, they forgot to also reserve www and it was snapped by
>> >> a domainer. Go ahead and visit www.co.ke, and see it resolve.
>> >>
>> >> That ship sailed long time ago.
>> >>
>> >> On 28/12/2017, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > @Ali,
>> >> >
>> >> > Let’s wait and hear if Abdallah thinks like you 🙂
>> >> >
>> >> > We may be saying it’s impossible, but maybe it is not…
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 28 December 2017 at 11:52, Ali Hussein <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Wash
>> >> >>
>> >> >> KeNIC is ours. I’m just trying to think out of the box so that some
>> of
>> >> >> these resources that could be in the community’s control can be used
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> further our ICT Agenda beyond government. We need to think out of
>> the
>> >> box
>> >> >> and monetize resources available.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wacha hiyo mentality ya kukalia uchumi boss.. 🙂
>> >> >>
>> >> >> *Ali Hussein*
>> >> >> *Principal*
>> >> >> *Hussein & Associates*
>> >> >> +254 0713 601113
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>
>> >> >> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>
>> >> >> “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act
>> >> >> but
>> >> a
>> >> >> habit.” ~ Aristotle
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 28 Dec 2017, at 11:44 AM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
>> >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> @Ali,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hiyo yako ni tamaa 🙂
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Let the co.ke just stay. It cannot be sold.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 28 December 2017 at 09:36, Ali Hussein <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Wash
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That can be part of the agreement. This domain is too valuable to
>> >> >>> just
>> >> >>> ‘park’ it. I see no reason why this can’t done.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Ali Hussein
>> >> >>> +254 0713 601113
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act
>> >> >>> but
>> >> >>> a
>> >> >>> habit.” ~ Aristotle
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Get Outlook for iOS
>> >> >>> _____________________________
>> >> >>> From: Odhiambo Washington <[email protected]>
>> >> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 9:02 AM
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Ni.ke hits the Kshs 1 billion (or $9.7m)
>> mark
>> >> in
>> >> >>> the premium domain auction of the .ke second level domain launch
>> >> >>> (Warning:
>> >> >>> This could be #FakeNews 🙂 )
>> >> >>> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> >>> Cc: Admin CampusCiti <[email protected]>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am with @Phares on this. I don’t think co.ke can be sold. If I
>> >> bought
>> >> >>> it, I could then mess up all the .co.ke domains by just creating
>> them
>> >> as
>> >> >>> a subdomain of my co.ke domain – unless it is clearly stated that
>> >> >>> whoever buys co.ke is PROHIBITED from creating any subdomains on
>> this
>> >> >>> domain.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 27 December 2017 at 18:41, Admin CampusCiti via kictanet <
>> >> >>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> @Phares
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Not really. (.co.ke) is what is currently in use. KeNIC
>> introduced a
>> >> >>>> second level system which is (.ke) and the rules are clear. You
>> can
>> >> own
>> >> >>>> any
>> >> >>>> domain with one or more letters before the (.ke).
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> So where I stand (or sit) 🙂 the co.ke domain is fair game.. I
>> >> >>>> think
>> >> >>>> KeNIC just needs to explain to the community why they are hoarding
>> >> this
>> >> >>>> billion dollar domain. 🙂
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> *Ali Hussein*
>> >> >>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> >> >>>> +254 0713 601113
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> “Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and
>> >> >>>> thinking
>> >> >>>> what no one else has thought”. ~ Albert Szent-Györgyi
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On 27 Dec 2017, at 6:32 PM, Phares Kariuki via kictanet <
>> >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I don’t think co.ke could be sold; everything .co.ke would have
>> to
>> >> be a
>> >> >>>> subdomain of whoever owns co.ke, if KE had started with .com.ke
>> we
>> >> may
>> >> >>>> have been able to do this. Perhaps I’m misinformed but it would
>> be a
>> >> >>>> technical nightmare
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>> >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Collins,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Directly? No… Let them Bid for it… starting bid Ksh 10m
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Rgds
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
>> >> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> No one uses co.ke, I would propose to @Abdalla to propose to
>> sell
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>> TLD (on condition that kenic manages it), and give the DNS /
>> MX &
>> >> >>>>>> some sub
>> >> >>>>>> domains to Coca Cola for the domain. I bet they would be happy
>> to
>> >> >>>>>> spend a
>> >> >>>>>> few dimes to boost KENIC.
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Regards,
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> Collins Areba,
>> >> >>>>>> Kilifi, Kenya.
>> >> >>>>>> Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788*
>> >> >>>>>> Twitter: @arebacollins.
>> >> >>>>>> Skype: arebacollins
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kipkemoi Kiptum
>> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]
>> >> >
>> >> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Maybe
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> www.co.ke?
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Many Thanks!
>> >> >>>>>>> Kip
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> *Kip*
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> *A Cruce Salus*
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
>> >> >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> We should just sell co.ke
>> >> >>>>>>>> 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Collins Areba,
>> >> >>>>>>>> Kilifi, Kenya.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Tel: +*254 707 750 788 */ *0731750788 <0731%20750788>*
>> >> >>>>>>>> Twitter: @arebacollins.
>> >> >>>>>>>> Skype: arebacollins
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Odhiambo Washington via
>> >> >>>>>>>> kictanet
>> >> <
>> >> >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Hi Bob,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Have you registered 1Bob.KE or you are waiting till I go
>> >> squatting
>> >> >>>>>>>>> with the name? 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> On 20 December 2017 at 20:38, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>> >> >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> So am I Bob.. So am I… 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I had to go in several times to confirm the number..
>> However,
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> proof of the pudding is in the eating.. Let’s see who plonks
>> >> that
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> kind of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> money..
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Some interesting domains are hitting respectable numbers..
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Ranging
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> from 100k to 500k..This is real..
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Principal*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Chiromo Road, Westlands,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> are
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official
>> >> positions
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> of the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> organizations that I work with.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Bob Omondi <
>> >> [email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> @Ali,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I am struggling with the figure 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> .KE is going place indeed!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Bob.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Ali Hussein <
>> >> [email protected]>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I billion.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Principal*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chiromo Road, Westlands,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this
>> email
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> positions of the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> organizations that I work with.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Bobs via kictanet <
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10M I think!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2017, at 6:56 PM, Grace Mutung’u (Bomu) via
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> kictanet
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Woooowwww!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, this is a great feat. Kudos KENIC!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-12-20 18:38 GMT+03:00 Ali Hussein via kictanet <
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>:
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ni.ke hits the Kshs 1 billion (or $9.7m) mark in the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> premium
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> domain auction of the .ke second level domain launch.
>> This
>> >> is
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably an
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all time record of any ccTLD (Country Code Second Level
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Domain).
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For a minute I thought this was an error. And it could
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> still
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be.. 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> auction.kenic.or.ke/item/19203406/nike
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this turns out to be true it would be a world record
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> focus the world alot more on Kenya.. Hold on! We are
>> onto
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wild ride! 🙂
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ​At the very least this is great PR and a Marketing
>> Coup.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Abdalla and Team – Well done for putting KENIC on the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> map!
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards​
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Ali Hussein*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Principal*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13th Floor , Delta Towers, Oracle Wing,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiromo Road, Westlands,
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> official
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> positions of
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the organizations that I work with.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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