Colleagues,
We are losing focus. May i propose given the bottom up nature of KICTAnet
that our colleague Patrick gets us funding or resources for a members
(listers) meeting since he seems to have a problem with organizations that
support the networks activities . It seems this mode of engagement is not
satisfactory despite the fact that most of the answers are in the public
domain. We can come and discuss the issues in detail during the members
forum. In the mean time, let us continue with preparations for the School
of Internet Governance and the Kenya IGF.
We have many Listers and members of the community who are eager to learn,
lets give them a chance.
Regards
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 8:16 AM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Mwendwa
>
> Very well said.
>
> Let everyone who feels they have something to contribute beyond the list
> feel free to join and shape the agenda and content. It is easy to criticize
> without making a contribution beyond the criticism.
>
> You are invited to the kitchen to suggest not only the ingredients but the
> menu, the settings, the venue and ultimately how to engage during the
> events.
>
> The beauty about online platforms like these is that they provide an
> avenue to engage offline and bring real issues to bear.
>
> Let us rise to the challenge.
>
> *Ali Hussein*
> *Principal*
> *AHK & Associates*
> +254 0713 601113
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>
> “We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
> habit.” ~ Aristotle
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 4 Jul 2019, at 11:23 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> The beauty about Kenya IGF and KeSIG is the multistakeholder nature, and
> the involvement of the community right from the beginning. AND WHERE IS THE
> BEGINNING? The AGENDA setting stage.
>
> This has been said again by Grace Bomu, Victor Kapiyo, and Mwara, but let
> me share again. The three links below are posts on the list on the AGENDA
> setting stage for KIGF and KeSIG where the KIGF MAG and KeSIG Steercom is
> formed to ask and answer all the questions that Patrick has asked. What
> should be the topics and overall objectives, Who should be the sponsor,
> Where will the event be held, When will it be held, Why all this, How will
> all this fit together,?, (what when where who why how).
>
> Call for volunteers- 2019 KeSIG steering committee
> lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2019-June/034691.html
> Call for Topics – Kenya IGF 2019
> lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2019-July/034717.html
> Call for Volunteers for the 2019 Kenya IGF Steering Team
> lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/2019-June/034681.html
>
> Another good thing is the permission-less nature, anybody is invited to
> participate, contribute, ask intelligent questions, and stupid ones too
> without any judgement. This platform does not only offer learning, but
> brings new voices to the tech policy space. Actually, the Kenya IGF and
> KeSIG are only a handful of very few initiatives that has produced the
> highest number of ICT policy experts in the entire continent, doing
> positive work in influencing enabling policies that affect me and you. I
> wish they can all give testimonials here. This is truly an initiative that
> is not just talk, but there is positive forward walk.
>
> Warm Regards.
> ______________________
> Mwendwa Kivuva,
>
>
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 19:44, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why is your job to cast aspersions on everything people do?
>>
>> Show us what you have done Patrick. This is not a platform to always have
>> negative issues about other people. We are here to engage positively. This
>> negativity from you is reaching a tipping point.
>>
>> Engage positively my brother or don’t engage at all. Please feel free to
>> join the MAG and contribute and ask all these questions in a positive
>> manner. Or don’t.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>>
>> *Principal*
>>
>> *AHK & Associates*
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel: +254 713 601113
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> <ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
>> mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
>> organizations that I work with.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 7:20 PM Patrick A. M. Maina via kictanet <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear listers,
>>>
>>> When it comes to topics that can influence thought on policy issues, the
>>> line between training and indoctrination or brainwash becomes very thin –
>>> hence the need for vigilance, close scrutiny, transparency and *neutrality
>>> assurance* of (all) policy-related training initiatives.
>>>
>>> Some of the companies known to sponsor such events worldwide are
>>> notorious for aggressive lobbying on policy or governance issues,
>>> ostensibly:
>>>
>>> a. to try avoid impending regulation of their harmful/anti-social
>>> business models (or to distort accountability and responsibility
>>> narratives);
>>>
>>> b to try gain unfair advantage over government policy (and/or
>>> procurement) by corrupting rules, infiltrating and subverting public sector
>>> initiatives, or by peddling influence;
>>>
>>> c. to institutionalize, launder and/or officially entrench their
>>> socially/economically damaging profit models.
>>>
>>> A number of them have been accused by multiple governments, regulators,
>>> civil society, journalists, intellectuals, internet users (via class action
>>> lawsuits) and even their own former executives of using either unlawful or
>>> dishonest / grossly unethical business practices in ruthless pursuit of
>>> profit. Examples of these dubious practices include purposefully developing
>>> harmful/addiction-forming radicalizing online products targeted at young
>>> people, using deceptive tactics to grow or protect their businesses,
>>> infiltrating and subverting public education systems, subverting economies
>>> by capturing workers and learners attention, brazen disregard for people’s
>>> privacy, unethical exploitation of private info, brazenly breaking laws or
>>> aggressively exploiting weak laws, exploiting public ignorance for profit
>>> and using predatory commercial strategies that are harmful to the public.
>>>
>>> The same companies, despite having BILLIONS in revenue, *agressively
>>> avoid* contributing their FAIR SHARE of taxes (sometimes to the extent of
>>> operating illegally, with impunity, in poor countries) – thus unfairly
>>> increasing the burden on governments and taxpayers to fund remediation for
>>> the indirect damage that these rogue companies cause e.g. damage to public
>>> health, subverting education, political instability, extremism and economic
>>> sabotage. These indirect, hidden burdens (negative externalities) can be
>>> socio-economically devastating – especially in developing economies, but
>>> are seldom recognized, highlighted, mitigated or attributed to the
>>> companies that are creating/amplifying them. The same companies then
>>> chicanerously manipulate the civil society (e.g. via training &
>>> sponsorship) to defend their commercial products as a “human right”!
>>>
>>> So depending on the sponsor(s), curriculum and governance framework, a
>>> training initiative could either be seen as legitimate training or a kind
>>> of backdoor indoctrination.
>>>
>>> This is why it is important to have full transparency and independent
>>> vetting of such sensitive initiatives (including sponsors, curriculum,
>>> tutors, accreditation etc).
>>>
>>> Also the use of the word “school” suggests an institution that has
>>> undergone formal vetting and accreditation. Yet when I look at the website,
>>> it ostensibly reads as if the “school” is an event. Questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Is it a school or is it an event?
>>>
>>> 2. Where is the school based?
>>>
>>> 3. Is it registered with relevant training oversight bodies?
>>>
>>> 4. Who are the lecturers and what are their credentials?
>>>
>>> 5. Who developed the coursework & what process was used? This is in view
>>> of high risk of content subversion due to powerful business interests
>>> having high conflicts of interest on policy and governance issues.
>>>
>>> 6. Is the school & coursework accredited? By which bodies?
>>>
>>> 7. Does it issue certificates?
>>>
>>> 8. How is the school/course funded? Does it have transparency reports?
>>> Where can they be found?
>>>
>>> 9. Who are the sponsors of this event/course?
>>>
>>> 10. How is conflict of interest avoided (currently and in the past)? Who
>>> audits & certifies neutrality?
>>>
>>> 11. By now such kinds of (potentially subjective) public-interest
>>> courses should have been put somewhere online for free and open access.
>>> This also allows for independent public scrutiny of the course content. How
>>> come this more transparent (and more pro-internet) approach has not yet
>>> been taken (despite big sponsors)?
>>>
>>> This is not to cast aspersions on this specific initiative but to point
>>> out, in good faith and in public interest, possible areas of risks or
>>> concern, so that they can be addressed or clarified. The issues above
>>> generally apply to any initiative(s) purporting to train stakeholders on
>>> policy and governance.
>>>
>>> Perhaps KICTANet officials can shed more light on the above issues
>>> please or point us to online resources that have the answers for each
>>> question above?
>>>
>>> Many thanks & have a blessed day.
>>>
>>> Patrick.
>>>
>>> Patrick A. M. Maina
>>> [Cross-domain Innovator | Independent Public Policy Analyst – Indigenous
>>> Innovations]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 3, 2019, 12:24:28 PM GMT+3, mwara gichanga via
>>> kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Listers
>>>
>>> The internet has become a vital platform for social, economic and
>>> political development in the world, and more increasing so here in Kenya.
>>> These bring about a lot of national interests around internet governance
>>> debates across all sectors .
>>>
>>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is pleased to welcome
>>> applications from those individuals interested in internet Governance for
>>> the 4th Edition of the Kenya School of Internet Governance (KeSIG). KeSIG
>>> takes place prior to the Kenya IGF, with the aim of introducing beginners
>>> to basic concepts in internet policy making. This is with the goal of
>>> creating and increasing the available expertise for participation in local
>>> and global internet governance processes.
>>>
>>> Learn more about KeSIG HERE <www.kictanet.or.ke/?page_id=40115>
>>>
>>> Whether you are a policy maker, a researcher, a regulator, an engineer,
>>> a journalist, an entrepreneur or a human rights defender – if you are
>>> interested and want to get involved in internet policy and governance ,
>>> KeSIG is designed perfectly for you!
>>>
>>> KeSIG will take place over a 3-day course from the 29th-31st July 2019,
>>> with the deadline for submissions closing on 13th July 2019, and
>>> announcement of selected participants following soon after.
>>>
>>> Kindly access application form HERE
>>> <forms.gle/vCncJuuGSnowFUhNA>
>>>
>>> 4TH EDITION OF KENYA SCHOOL OF INTERNET GOVERNANCE(KESIG)
>>>
>>> KICTANet welcomes applications for fellows for the 4th Edition of the
>>> Kenya School of Internet Governance (KeSIG…
>>> <forms.gle/vCncJuuGSnowFUhNA>
>>>
>>>
>>> For any further information or clarification , kindly email
>>> [email protected] or Mwara Gichanga [email protected]
>>>
>>> Warmly
>>>
>>> Mwara Gichanga
>>>
>>> Tech Policy Associate
>>>
>>> KICTANet
>>>
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